E10: How to Make Authenticity Your Superpower with Lorna Hollifield

Some people spend years learning to trust themselves. Lorna Hollifield was born that way — and it has made all the difference.

Lorna is an author and editor whose debut novel Bright Little Girls is a testament to what happens when you refuse to write for anyone but yourself. In this conversation we talk about authenticity as a superpower, what it takes to keep believing in a dream through years of rejection, and why there's a difference between hoping something works out and truly believing it will.

What We Talk About In This Episode

• Why Lorna has always known who she is — and what that's cost her
• The difference between hope and belief — and why it matters more than you think
• How she processed years of rejection without losing herself
• The one-day rule her mother gave her for dealing with disappointment
• Dropping out of college on purpose — and why it was the most self-aware decision she ever made
• What the early years of her marriage looked like — and how belief carried them through
• Why authenticity will disappoint some people regardless — so you might as well be yourself
• What it means to write for yourself first and trust that the right readers will find you

Connect with Lorna Hollifield

• Instagram: @lornahollifield
• Bright Little Girls — available wherever books are sold

Get Angie's Book: Girl in the Spotlight — available in print and audio 

Subscribe to Angie's weekly letter Hello Friday

Instagram: @angiemizzell

Transcript

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Lorna (00:00)
why not be authentic? What is it going to hurt? Cause you're going to disappoint people by being authentic. You're going to disappoint people if you become inauthentic. you can't please everyone all the time. So best just be you.

Angie Mizzell (00:11)
Hey, I'm Angie Mizzell and welcome to More Like You, the podcast about letting go of the life you thought you should live and stepping into the life that feels more like you. I'm a former TV journalist turned author and storyteller, and I know how it feels to chase success that looks good on paper, but doesn't feel right in your heart. Walking away from that life changed everything for me. It taught me to trust myself, embrace change, and create a life that feels like home.

Now I'm here to help you do the same.

Today's episode is a must listen if you've ever felt the pressure to fit into a mold that just wasn't made for you. My guest, author and editor Lorna Hollifield is here to remind us that authenticity is our superpower.

She's built a writing career, navigated setbacks, and stayed fiercely true to herself, even when no one was clapping.

We talk about chasing big dreams without a safety net, how to keep believing in those dreams when you face rejection, and why sometimes the most courageous thing you can do is refuse to play by the rules.

Angie Mizzell (01:16)
so Lorna, let's just get right to the good stuff Your novel, Bright Little Girls, is coming out soon.

Tell us a little bit about this book and what inspired it.

Lorna (01:28)
the book is very coming of age, which there's something about that kind of trope that I love because it seems like everything in the entire world happens between the ages of like 13 and 20. And really nothing happens at all. Right. But it's everything. And I hate when people say things like growing up, it doesn't matter. High school doesn't matter. Something someone said to you.

Angie Mizzell (01:44)
That's the truth.

Lorna (01:54)
It matters like maybe more than anything. It's like the first thing that does matter. It matters when you're 50 years old. It matters when you're 100 years old and whether you're walking away from being that person or you have nostalgia about that person. It's everything. And so this book it goes back and forth in time. You know during that kind of coming of age time and adulthood and it's about a girl who is struggling horribly.

with OCD. She knows she's OCD, but she's never really dealt with it. And it's kind of triggered by her connection to a very brutal crime. And so she's dealing with this huge life thing, but also things about herself she never dealt with. And there's a very toxic love interest, because who doesn't experience, you know, toxic love at that age, you know, during those years where you're trying to figure it all out.

but it's really largely a suspense too. We don't know who the narrator is. The narrator is stalking the main character.

But the crazy part is the main character is also, there's a restraining order against her because she keeps writing letters and mailing them to someone who has asked her to stop. So there's a circular stalker and being stalked. They're both stalkers. And so we're trying to figure out who they are. So that's kind of the twist and the part that keeps you

Angie Mizzell (03:16)
when you're writing a novel, how much of this and this one in particular, how much of it is drawn from real life events?

Lorna (03:22)
This one more than others actually. Obviously there's huge amounts of fiction in this. I've never known anyone who has been murdered, thank God. I've never experienced, you know, what my character's experiencing. But she's kind of a very, very, very exaggerated version of me. I would say there's more of myself in this than anything else, because I was trying so hard to

figure out how to get my next book deal. Like, and I had written a couple books. There was one, I had this agent and it was shopped and it just never got picked up and I was just so down and...

I was listening to the radio. was just like driving down the interstate and I heard that one Republic song secrets and he's basically in the same boat. I am like he's saying like, tell me what you want to hear. Like he's talking to the record company. He's like, you know, I don't have anything else. And then he's like, I'm just going to give all my secrets away. And so I kind of started thinking about all the parts of myself that I wear less on my sleeve, which I'm very open about things, but casual.

Like I don't dig into and explain to people exactly what my thoughts are when I have OCD moments or when I'm anxious. Which is something I've dealt with. OCD has been the battle of my life and people think it means like you're a hand washer or you like to count and it's really not that. It's trying to find a means of control. You create these weird little rules in your life to try to control something that you can't control. Like I say in the novel, you know, if you have all your shoes

in a perfect row because you think it looks nice, you probably just have an anal personality. If you have eight shoes in a row, all lined up and know, perfect little rows because it means like your family won't die that day, then you're OCD. And so that's kind of the difference.

and it becomes just so consuming and panic attacks and things like that. So that's something I dealt with very much. And I tried to explore that in really raw way. And I'm really blessed. I've been with my husband since we were 17 years old. It has been over 20 years. He is wonderful. But there were before him, there was always just this kind of like type.

of guy that I thought I would end up with. And so Jett Jorgensen is the guy that you kind of love to hate in this novel. He's an amalgam of a lot of...

different boys I came across and then some that some of Jett just completely made up like absolutely based on nothing except just the figment of my imagination

Angie Mizzell (05:50)
us a little bit about your journey as a writer and then making a go for it.

as a novelist because I imagine, well, I know from my experience, it's paved with inspiration and a lot of rejection and a lot of mixed feelings. So this, know for a fact, it's not an easy road. So what got you on this path and how has it been for you from then to now?

Lorna (06:15)
I always say if you're really a writer you can't help it. Like people who are like, I have this novel but I just don't have time to write it. I don't buy it. I never buy it because you can't help it. If you really are a writer you can't help it and I will always believe that. Like it will come out of you no matter what you do. And it always has for me. I've talked in almost every podcast I've ever done about my grandmother. She passed about two weeks ago actually and she taught me to

really young.

preschool age. I stayed with her. never went to preschool and all we did was learn to read and watch soap operas and that kind of sprouts a writer. I was an only child until I was much older. I didn't have any kids around. I just created these worlds in my head and I always did and I felt like I had so much to get out

she had these old planners, just stacks of them that were empty and I don't even know why. And I would just get in them and like just make loops and I would be writing stories, but I couldn't even write letters yet, but I would just be.

Angie Mizzell (07:17)
I remember this. I did the same thing. The loops in the notebook. I was saying something important.

Lorna (07:19)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but

I know those loops meant something right like they they had meaning and I think that's our own little code as children like because we just have that like innate desire to want to write it and get it out. So and then I was in first grade and a teacher wrote in my report card. I think Lorna is an author because I was always writing little stories and I was like, my God.

Angie Mizzell (07:27)
my goodness.

Lorna (07:46)
There it is. I'm an author. And it gave me a word. It gave me, I was like, I never realized that I can write all these books. That's what I will do. And that was it. That was who I was. I mean, it's funny. I was a bleach blonde cheerleader and I was a writer. And it didn't make any sense together.

Angie Mizzell (08:02)
you

It there are so many parallels. I was raised by a single mom most of the time, but my maternal grandmother, a huge parental influence in my life and just the draw to writing and the creativity and being the cheerleader and being a writer. But I went into broadcast journalism. So I definitely went into the more public

Lorna (08:09)
Okay.

Yeah.

Angie Mizzell (08:29)
space with the writing because at the time journalism was the only real thing that seemed viable.

Lorna (08:31)
Mm-hmm.

it's funny because viable was like not even I didn't even think about it I was like I have to live in a box I live in a box and that's where look I'm not a strong independent woman who don't need no man like I need my man He has been so supportive and thank God because that's a blessing because my husband You know, he's he's very successful. So he Really enabled me to not have to like take a waitressing job at night so I could write, know if I had been single

It would have been like okay. I'm gonna have to take some odd jobs which there were times early in our marriage I definitely did that I taught gymnastics. I did all kinds of things but Now you know later I was able to really dig into that because he supported it

It was just always who I wanted to be. As far as getting published, I finished my first novel in my early 20s and then started trying to figure out how do you get an agent, how do you get a publisher.

went that route, that novel was horribly rejected and rightfully so because it sucks, but I didn't know that then. And then I wrote a second novel that was horribly rejected and rightfully so because it sucks. And then I wrote a third novel that I was like, I think this is pretty good.

Angie Mizzell (09:47)
You okay?

Lorna (09:48)
And

I had that experience of shopping agents and everything. And I got a book deal with that. That was Tobacco Sun. After Tobacco Sun, I landed a big deal agent in New York City on a project that has still not made it to market. But I thought this is it. Like it is over. am number one best seller. I'm here we go, you know. And we got this close.

close to a very very nice deal with a very very big company and then it just things fall apart sometimes in this industry it's like it's like with acting or anything else

it's like trying to catch air.

Angie Mizzell (10:29)
how do you or how have you processed that level of disappointment when you have your hopes up high and then it's not what you think it's gonna be? How do you keep going?

Lorna (10:40)
straight bourbon in

the bathtub.

Angie Mizzell (10:44)
I mean, that sounds like a good plan.

Lorna (10:46)
No,

I mean that usually okay, and this is something my mom taught me she says you get I do drink bourbon in the bathtub But only for one day only once and then I one day you get one day to feel sorry for yourself To cry to think it's unfair to whine to wallow don't get out your pajamas But you only get one day and that's what she's always told me since I was a little girl if I was upset about something all right take your day, but don't want to hear about tomorrow and

Angie Mizzell (10:55)
one day.

Hmm.

Lorna (11:14)
That's kind of how I've lived my life. And my mom has been hard on me at times. She's not like a super...

nuturer emotionally and she knows I mean if she hears this she'll be like why did you talk about me on the podcast again but I'm gonna you know who you are and I love her and she's more of a like if you're sick she'll nurture you but if she's not gonna like sit with a cup of tea and hold your hand that's just she's gonna be like pull yourself up by your bootstraps and which is funny cuz my dad's more the love bug he'll be like let daddy hold you you know and so I kind of had this like rough love and then the getting petted

a little bit but she

Is the voice in my head though with those things and what's my choice except to keep trying because I'm a writer and I can't help but write and so if it's I Mean, it's why a lot of writers have issues I mean it's a hard thing to be in love with and it's so rewarding when it's rewarding and it hurts like hell when it's not It's it's bad, but I always you know I believe in God I believe in a higher power and I pray about it and I just have this faith that this is who he made me to be and that's who I'm gonna

to

be when I'm not drinking and I'm just kidding I joke about drinking I don't drink that much actually I almost never actually but when I do drink it's bourbon in the bathtub in the dark so I

Angie Mizzell (12:21)
No.

This seems like a very southern

thing to do. Is that a southern thing?

Lorna (12:31)
I have a

whole wall of teacups in my writing room and I will drink the bourbon out of the teacups because then it's okay. Then it's cute, right? Like it's, that's fine. So anyway, it's how I deal with it is I take my day and then I just start again. I have absolutely no logic with it. I just believe.

this is who I am and it's all gonna work out and that's it. There's a difference between hope and belief. People talk a lot about, believe in yourself, believe in yourself, but then when you really do something crazy on the basis of belief, people are like, whoa, you need a safety net, you need to pull back. And it's like, no, you're telling me to hope something works out. You're not telling me to believe it. And I believe it.

Angie Mizzell (13:08)
Mmm.

Lorna (13:14)
I believe this is who I am and it's worked out, know, because then I did get another book deal and.

You know, it's I've met a lot of amazing authors who have helped me. I've met people I've, you know, my books endorsed by Patty Callahan Henry, who is a powerhouse in Southern literature, and that she's like, yeah, I'll put my name on your book. That's huge. The reviews that are coming in are really positive and it's just it's happening.

Angie Mizzell (13:40)
I'm gonna write that down because that is profound and there is a difference between hope and belief. They're not interchangeable. I mean, they're not. So we were talking before the podcast and you said something to me that just was like a neon sign in my head and you said, authenticity is my superpower.

Lorna (13:46)
there is.

They're not. Yeah.

Yeah.

Angie Mizzell (14:04)
So when you were saying that authenticity was your superpower, you also recognized that some of us, a lot of us, me especially, that's what I wrote my whole book about, I was conditioned to not listen to the inner voice. And so many of us go through a process where we realize, wait, my true self is speaking to me and I've been ignoring her and it's time to listen.

But you seem to have that mechanism built in, and I'm so fascinated by that.

Lorna (14:35)
That's true and that is my superpower and I thank God for that because I have a thousand things that are not my superpower including you know the horrible anxiety and the OCD and all of that but I am crazy intuitive. I know myself.

I just kind of always trust my gut. I'm not very good at, and it's not rebellion, I'm just not good at like becoming a brick in the wall. Because a lot of times I'm like, who came up with this? Like it's just naturally in me to be like,

Why is this the rule? Somebody else just came up with this. So I'll just come up with my way if I don't like this.

I made really good grades in high school, made great grades in college, but then I'm a college dropout. I literally walked out of a science class one day because I had written like this whole intro to a novel and I was so excited about it.

and I left I never went back and my parents were gonna maybe hold hands and jump off a bridge together like I don't know

They were like, what is your problem? you're you've done so much school. Why would you not just finish? And then and I realized I said it wasn't about the science class. I realized if I finish I'm scared I'll be an English teacher and they're like great, know, you'll have something to do so that you can make money while you write and I'm like, ooh, no, no, no can't see I'm like you think you're making a good point, but that's actually what I'm terrified of. I am so scared. will get caught up teaching English and will only be able to write on weekends and

I'm terrified that I will like connect to students and then you know get stuck there because I'll feel like I need to be there or something and they're like well that's purpose and I'm like no it's not and I literally like I think I purposely didn't finish my degree so I couldn't get a job teaching.

Angie Mizzell (16:11)
So.

You created a situation where you had no choice, that you couldn't fail. You couldn't put this dream on the back burner because you actually did not create a safety net, which sounds like that. I don't mean that in a reckless way. That is so profound to me that you had that much self-awareness as a young person and you

Lorna (16:32)
Yeah.

Angie Mizzell (16:45)
Also were telling me about the early days of your marriage. I love your love story with your husband, but it was rough at the beginning because you were young. You didn't have any money,

Lorna (16:50)
you

Really.

Angie Mizzell (16:56)
there was a moment where you said you were coming home to lights off. Like that's a big deal. I'm telling the audience about a conversation we had before this but I'm just going to go ahead and say the things that really stuck out in my head.

Lorna (17:00)
Yeah.

Angie Mizzell (17:09)
Because in that, whatever was going on in that time, it's the time you were pulled from your writing, so you didn't feel like yourself and you knew it, but you guys were also struggling financially and you and your husband came together, however old you were, and said, there's gotta be a better way. And you guys created a better way. So tell us about that.

Lorna (17:21)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

So, this is where, you know, a lot of times I yell the glory because my job's exciting. People are like, oh cool, you're a writer. And my husband is quiet. He's an introvert. He owns a finance firm that is now in three states. he is so, he's steady Eddie and he trucks along and he's smart and successful. And a lot of this

in the early days.

was him pulling us up because when we got married young, we got married in a fever dream. mean, literally, this is a Johnny Cash song. I mean, we got married in a fever and just we, I think I'm only illogical thing the man ever did because he's so logical, but I don't, he married me when he was 20 years old. And that was another thing. Everybody's like, what is she doing with her life?

they're like, you were going to be a writer. I'm like, I'm still going be a writer. Why can't married people be writers? And they're like, oh, you're going to have kids. I'm like, well, maybe in 10 years or something, like not now. and I think I always did give people that scare because I was so prone to just do whatever I wanted and no one would ever understand that because it didn't ever fit a blueprint. But I'm so glad I married him because

we just held hands and did life together and we're still doing life together 20 years later, our 20th is in September and now we have a four-year-old little girl that you know we were married 15 years before we had her.

But in the early days, no, we had nothing. We had absolutely nothing. And I was so shocked to learn, especially in Charleston, that, because I grew up in the Appalachian South. It is like the, you know, gritty, dirt South. And then Charleston's kind of this old money South a little bit. And Charleston's wonderful, but there is a lot of that. It's a wealthier South. And people would like have their parents' credit cards or their parents would give

Angie Mizzell (19:13)
Mm-hmm.

Lorna (19:21)
them a down payment for a home or I was just so shocked people were given like you you were just given money like that was shocking to me and my husband neither of us came from money and so but he was always intrigued by money because his grandmother owned an alteration shop and would send him with the deposit in like a terrible part of town

But she would just send him with like a load of cash down to the bank and he would hang out the bank like all day Asking them questions and watching the stock market and he was just intrigued by it and he was like it can't be that big of a science to figure out how to grow money and he was always minded that way he just kind of had that naturally and he You know we got married and things were really rough and then I had a grand mal seizure

the busiest street in Winston Salem. We didn't have health insurance at the time. It was just terrible. And we did come home to like lights out and we were splitting like a dollar hamburger from McDonald's and he looked at me and said, this is not gonna be our life.

He really did. just said, it might suck a little bit longer. It might suck for another year or so, but this is not going to be our life. I'm going to fix this. And he didn't go get a job or work for someone else. He is an entrepreneur. He started, he got involved in insurance and got contracted through some companies and became like one of the best agents they'd ever had. then at 23, they offered him an office like of his own. And that's when we first came to Charleston, he became the youngest

Angie Mizzell (20:23)
Hmm.

Lorna (20:52)
person in the history of that company to ever run their own office. He ended up leaving that company and completely building his own at 25 on started it on our kitchen table. And he told me then he said, Okay, I'm gonna drain our accounts again. He's like, I'm gonna do this. Are you with me? I'm with you.

Angie Mizzell (21:09)
Wow.

Lorna (21:11)
And

he became a full-on financial advisor at that point and was telling people what to do that had millions and millions of dollars when he was draining everything we had to get it going. And it worked. And so now he has a firm here and he has a firm in Asheville, North Carolina. He has a firm in Jacksonville, Florida.

Angie Mizzell (21:22)
Wow.

Lorna (21:29)
And it's good. Life is good. so he had a lot of that belief too. And I watched him kind of put his money where his mouth was and pay my medical bills and pick us up. And I thought the least I can do is really try with this dream. And he asked me one time, he says, how do you expect to get published if you're not sending your novel out? If you're not trying to find how to get this done? And I'm like, you're right. He did more than just support me. He held me accountable.

Angie Mizzell (21:54)
Mm-hmm.

Lorna (21:54)
And

I always hold him accountable and it just works. And so now, you know, life looks a lot different than it did then. And again, belief.

Angie Mizzell (22:04)
we're doing this, I am reminded of what I love about what I'm doing is I love listening for these really profound things that are like life truths that come out of us telling our stories. And if you do have that support and if you can look around and see who is supporting you, I think in some ways we might have a responsibility to them to see it through.

Lorna (22:09)
Mm-hmm.

Angie Mizzell (22:30)
You know, if they believe in you, believe in yourself. Do what you said you were either going to do or that's in your heart to do. And that's really incredible. And you also have the success to show for

Lorna (22:43)
you make it, it's so easy to talk about those hard times and people applaud you, but in the middle of it, nobody applauds you. That's what's the hard part people don't understand is while you're in the hardest part of your life, scraping bottom, just holding on, feeling like you're being

dragged

and bleeding that's when people are the worst to you and that's where it gets really important to follow your own rules and to know yourself because nobody is supporting you when it's the toughest and that's true

Angie Mizzell (23:03)
Wow.

So you are also the managing editor of Charleston Women Magazine. And now that I've gotten to know you a little better, I can see how this is a really good fit but at first I had a question about the dichotomy of the writer life. You know, it's very solitary and we're in our head and our inner world. And then there's a public life where it's more glamorous. It's definitely more recognizable.

People are more inclined to applaud you, be, you know, managing editor of a magazine, and you go to events. Do these feel like two of the same, like two sides of the same coin? Or are they, do they conflict at all? These parts of your personality that, you know, the private writer world and the outside public world.

Lorna (23:59)
Other than... they really don't. I mean, other than if I'm alone writing, I

I'm in pajamas and look terrible and if I'm at an event I look nice. I mean that's literally the only separation. I mean I think I you know I'm who I am no matter where I'm at you know

I don't feel like I put on any different show publicly than I do privately.

Angie Mizzell (24:20)
I think that as a young person,

I got caught up in that outside display because I didn't, I don't think I fully realized that they were, there were two parts of me that were the same and completely valid. And I think the part of me that left the public eye for a little bit when I left television news, it was so that I could go into a more private world that felt more authentic. But what I discovered is it wasn't either or.

Lorna (24:41)
Mm-hmm.

Angie Mizzell (24:50)
It's just it was more of just waking up a part of me that maybe I didn't show the world as much. and to realize, well, they're both you and they don't have to look the same, but they're both you.

Lorna (24:51)
Okay.

Mm-hmm.

Angie Mizzell (25:02)
And I think that is just really important for women especially to realize. So that's just my big.

Lorna (25:02)
Yeah.

I mean, I think it can

be very hard because I am a writer and I would write no matter what, but I do need people to buy my book. I do need readers to like it, but I don't.

Even though I adore my readers, appreciate them. I don't write it for them. I really don't but it's hard. I write it for me and hope they like it. I'm like the people who will like it will buy it. But it's so hard if you're somebody who's on the news or you're an entertainer because your job depends on people approving of you. And so I think it would be really hard sometimes to stay that authentic for some for a lot of people. And just because I don't have that

mechanism it's not like I can never be hurt or like critics don't hurt me or if I get a bad review it doesn't sting or bother me it does it just doesn't change me it just doesn't because like why what if I change based on what one person says then I'm gonna disappoint someone else so

There's always going to be that noise, you know? why not be authentic? What is it going to hurt? Cause you're going to disappoint people by being authentic. You're going to disappoint people if you become inauthentic. You know, you, you can't please everyone all the time. So best just be you.

Angie Mizzell (26:06)
Yeah,

you were telling me about a conversation with your sister she struggled to do the things she really wanted to do, and then she did it and realized she was super happy. So what do you say to someone who's like your sister who is struggling because she cares more about what other people think?

Lorna (26:28)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

You know, people always doesn't matter what people think. But people who care what other people think, like, but it does, because it hurts me, because I have an emotional response when they think I am doing something silly or stupid, and then that affects my self-esteem and I'm an emotional person, I get it, but take the emotion out and just think, what does it actually do to you?

They're not gonna kill you. You're not gonna die.

You know, even if you're embarrassed, you will get past it. Feel it and maybe you'll get used to it and not care anymore. Expose yourself to that thing that scares you, you're gonna be fine. That's my whole thing. You will be fine. No matter if my book flops and everyone on the planet hates it, I will survive and I'm still happy I wrote it. So that's kind of where you have to land, I think. Just do what makes you happy.

Angie Mizzell (27:25)
So you manage a magazine, you write novels, you have a four-year-old little girl. What are your non-negotiables?

Lorna (27:34)
Family time for sure. 100%. I will not miss my daughter's events. for instance, there was a huge book event that is on May 17th I wanted to go to so badly. There's a huge book fair in Charlotte. I'm like, my gosh, if this could just be one day different, because my little girl has a dance recital.

And my husband's like, you know, if you really need to go to this, I'll take her to the recital and you can go to the book fair. And I was like, no way. I'm not, I go, I might go. I'll meet people. I'll sell 20 books, you know, but.

I'm not going to miss her. She's not going to be four forever and she'll never have this recital again. I'm not going to prioritize work over her. So that's a non-negotiable. And don't get me wrong. There are times I am spread thin. literally crying like heaving crying because I'm

Angie Mizzell (28:12)
Yeah.

Lorna (28:19)
just so overwhelmed. It's happened. But, that's when I just try to adjust a little bit. I picture like a little screwdriver. Okay, this screw got really tight. Ramp loosen that up a little. I'm gonna have to be a little less rigid about this thing. But the non-negotiable is my child. She needs me. I'm there. Period. Period. I'm gonna volunteer at school. I'm gonna read to the kids. I'm gonna do whatever I need to do. I also volunteer every Thursday at the Timrod Library in

Angie Mizzell (28:38)
Yes.

Lorna (28:48)
which is the cutest little place ever. And by the way, it was founded by women in the 1800s, which was unheard of because they were seeking education and they created this reading circle that became a library. And I love that place more than ever. And I volunteer just like mindlessly checking books in and out every Thursday. And I think I might do that for the rest of my freaking life because I feel more relaxed in that setting. That is like my happy place of the week. And so unless I'm, you

sick or have a fever or something or my child needs me I'm gonna be there every Thursday

Angie Mizzell (29:20)
tell our listeners how they can find you, how they can get your book, and anything else you want them to know before we go today.

Lorna (29:26)
can find me at Lorna Hollifield, just my name, on Instagram, I'm on TikTok, I do make the occasional funny videos.

So just find me on social media, say hey to me, I'll say hey to you, I'm responsive, I like to hear from you. Also, my book is available, everywhere books are available. It's on pre-order now. If you pre-order it through my publisher, Black Rose Writing, you can get 15 % off.

by typing in pre-order in all caps, pre-order 2025, and that will be on pre-order until March. And I hope you guys read it and review it and love it and say hi to me and all the things.

Angie Mizzell (30:05)
I wish you every success. It was so great to talk to you today. And thank you for sharing your insight with us. It was wonderful.

Angie Mizzell (30:12)
What a great conversation. I loved how Lorna reminded us that authenticity is our superpower, but only if we're brave enough to trust ourselves. Her journey is proof that believing in yourself isn't just a cliche, it's a strategy. Be sure to grab a copy of her new novel, Bright Little Girls.

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